This is one reason we spent about three hours at the museum on day two of our trip. First, the guy on the left is Jay Killen, a good friend of Greg's and long-time surfer. Jay is coming off surgery for Parkinson's and Greg that it would be good that Jay come along. The guy on the right is Steve Wilkings. He is the archiver of records for the museum. He used to shoot for Surfer Magazine back in the '60s on till whenever, one of the veterens in the world of surf photography. He and Jay go back a long, long way. They are standing in the doorway to the board room at the museum. We lucked out by going back on day two so these two could hook up, by chance. We spent about two hours in the board room going through the history of surfing and stores that have never been told publicly.